My wife and I have had the honor of celebrating a few decades of birthdays with John, and his lovely wife Dottie. John comes from a very large family and has quite a few kids and grand kids of his own. On many occasions they gather to love and honor John. It is lots of fun. Very relaxed. Joyful. John is rock solidly devoted to his family. I wish he would retire totally and start a new career teaching others about how to raise and love a family based on Godly wisdom.